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		<title>By: jesskidden</title>
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		<description>I also notice on the new MillerCoors website (which I, too, have a hard time getting through the age verification page- tho&#039; sometimes it&#039;ll let me in *without* even filling it out- just hit &quot;enter&quot;) that the new section on reading their dates codes - &quot;Nutrition and Codes&quot; - omits the shelf life they give their beers- they only explain how to read the &quot;pull date&quot;.  

The old Miller site explained that they gave their beers (as well as the Pabst&#039;s brands) 17 weeks of shelf life and  gave their imports 9 months (somewhat unusual- most imports have 1 year shelf life- too long in my opinion for light lager styles).  The conflicting codes on the packages on Pilsner Urquel was the reason I was at the site to begin with- apparently one of the codes (4 pack can wrapper) was &quot;week of the year&quot; and the other, on the can/bottle, was the Miller-style code.

As for the craft/specialty confusion, note that Miller now brews Fosters in the US (in their Texas brewery, IIRC, under the dba of &quot;Oil Can Brewing Co.&quot;).  That deal (I guess a license with Fosters?) was the excuse MolsonCoors gave for closing a brewery in Canada not too long ago. Of course, that was before the Miller-Coors US jv.

Killian&#039;s, too, technically is a license deal- at least it was in the beginning- between Coors and not only the Geo. Killian Lett heirs, but also with Pelforth (the French brewery that also brews a &quot;Killian&quot; branded ale- now owned by Heineken IIRC).  So, apparently, domestically brewed, licensed foreign brands are &quot;specialty&quot; beers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also notice on the new MillerCoors website (which I, too, have a hard time getting through the age verification page- tho&#8217; sometimes it&#8217;ll let me in *without* even filling it out- just hit &#8220;enter&#8221;) that the new section on reading their dates codes &#8211; &#8220;Nutrition and Codes&#8221; &#8211; omits the shelf life they give their beers- they only explain how to read the &#8220;pull date&#8221;.  </p>
<p>The old Miller site explained that they gave their beers (as well as the Pabst&#8217;s brands) 17 weeks of shelf life and  gave their imports 9 months (somewhat unusual- most imports have 1 year shelf life- too long in my opinion for light lager styles).  The conflicting codes on the packages on Pilsner Urquel was the reason I was at the site to begin with- apparently one of the codes (4 pack can wrapper) was &#8220;week of the year&#8221; and the other, on the can/bottle, was the Miller-style code.</p>
<p>As for the craft/specialty confusion, note that Miller now brews Fosters in the US (in their Texas brewery, IIRC, under the dba of &#8220;Oil Can Brewing Co.&#8221;).  That deal (I guess a license with Fosters?) was the excuse MolsonCoors gave for closing a brewery in Canada not too long ago. Of course, that was before the Miller-Coors US jv.</p>
<p>Killian&#8217;s, too, technically is a license deal- at least it was in the beginning- between Coors and not only the Geo. Killian Lett heirs, but also with Pelforth (the French brewery that also brews a &#8220;Killian&#8221; branded ale- now owned by Heineken IIRC).  So, apparently, domestically brewed, licensed foreign brands are &#8220;specialty&#8221; beers?</p>
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