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	<title>Comments on: Rethinking The Blog Love Fest Over Beer Wars The Movie&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.beerscribe.com/2009/03/16/rethinking-the-blog-love-fest-over-beer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well very done Greg, very well done.  It was hard for me to write that line about you being sensible just as it was to even tangentially equate Jay&#039;s statement with those ideals of sycophantic beer knurds...Enjoyed some wildly underpriced pints of Ruination last night (true 16 ouncers for $5.50 here in Boston).  I dare not tell you where as the bar owner must have his numbers inverted...See you next month.  Cheers,

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well very done Greg, very well done.  It was hard for me to write that line about you being sensible just as it was to even tangentially equate Jay&#8217;s statement with those ideals of sycophantic beer knurds&#8230;Enjoyed some wildly underpriced pints of Ruination last night (true 16 ouncers for $5.50 here in Boston).  I dare not tell you where as the bar owner must have his numbers inverted&#8230;See you next month.  Cheers,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Koch</title>
		<link>http://www.beerscribe.com/2009/03/16/rethinking-the-blog-love-fest-over-beer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Koch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

I strongly protest your highly questionable comment about me.  To say that I am &quot;otherwise sensible&quot; is outrageous and I would argue that my being &#039;sensible&#039; is the exception, rather than the norm, and I will thank you very much for not suggesting otherwise (I have a delicate reputation you know).

Truth be told, I have stopped using my &quot;Angry beer makes for happy people&quot; statement.  That is primarily because of the fact that while the statement made perfect sense to me, it seemed to confuse others (and even sometimes apparently make them a bit uncomfortable).  I guess some folks just can&#039;t reconcile with the idea of being happy.  Far be it for me to press the issue!  

Us folks that like great heavy/angry music get it however...nothing like blaring &quot;Kill &#039;Em All&quot; (for just one example) to take the edge off a tough day.  Add in a 22 of Arrogant Bastard Ale and the attitude adjustment is gloriously complete!  Great happiness ensues (at least for me!).

Cheers,

Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>I strongly protest your highly questionable comment about me.  To say that I am &#8220;otherwise sensible&#8221; is outrageous and I would argue that my being &#8216;sensible&#8217; is the exception, rather than the norm, and I will thank you very much for not suggesting otherwise (I have a delicate reputation you know).</p>
<p>Truth be told, I have stopped using my &#8220;Angry beer makes for happy people&#8221; statement.  That is primarily because of the fact that while the statement made perfect sense to me, it seemed to confuse others (and even sometimes apparently make them a bit uncomfortable).  I guess some folks just can&#8217;t reconcile with the idea of being happy.  Far be it for me to press the issue!  </p>
<p>Us folks that like great heavy/angry music get it however&#8230;nothing like blaring &#8220;Kill &#8216;Em All&#8221; (for just one example) to take the edge off a tough day.  Add in a 22 of Arrogant Bastard Ale and the attitude adjustment is gloriously complete!  Great happiness ensues (at least for me!).</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Brooks</title>
		<link>http://www.beerscribe.com/2009/03/16/rethinking-the-blog-love-fest-over-beer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, I can&#039;t speak for the other blogs and websites that have been championing Beer Wars, but as for me, I met with Anat Baron (the writer and director) last year. We had lunch, I asked her questions. She talked about the project, what she hoped to accomplish with it, etc. I asked more questions. I listened. I corresponded with her and spoke with her a few more times over the subsequent months. I watched the trailer. I read the PR for the film. I talked to some of the people in the film. And from that I formed an opinion that I wanted to help the film find a wider audience. So I wrote positively about the film&#039;s potential in the hopes of encouraging people to see it. I don&#039;t believe that&#039;s fawning sycophantic behavior in the least.

Will it be perfect? I can&#039;t say, obviously, but the last movie that was in wide distribution about beer was Beerfest. Even if this film is flawed, it has to be better than that. In our lifetime, when has there ever been a documentary film about beer in theaters across the country? Never. So I think it has the potential to be a very good thing for the industry as a whole. Perhaps some of the 96% of the population still not drinking better beer will rethink that decision? I would like to see that happen. We need a tipping point, who knows where it will come from. Just having a film out there will likely mean more attention is paid to beer by the media. How can that be a bad thing?

So yes, I decided not to sit back and figure out how to criticize it, but instead chose to give it a chance. And because there is at least a reasonable possibility that it could do good for the beer community, I threw my very tiny hat in the ring to try to influence its success. If I was wrong, I&#039;ll be the first to say so. But I&#039;ll willing to give it the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. For now, I&#039;m trusting that the message the film is trying to send will be delivered.

Oh, and as I understand it, Ben Stein has no connection to the industry. He was simply the most recognizable name available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, I can&#8217;t speak for the other blogs and websites that have been championing Beer Wars, but as for me, I met with Anat Baron (the writer and director) last year. We had lunch, I asked her questions. She talked about the project, what she hoped to accomplish with it, etc. I asked more questions. I listened. I corresponded with her and spoke with her a few more times over the subsequent months. I watched the trailer. I read the PR for the film. I talked to some of the people in the film. And from that I formed an opinion that I wanted to help the film find a wider audience. So I wrote positively about the film&#8217;s potential in the hopes of encouraging people to see it. I don&#8217;t believe that&#8217;s fawning sycophantic behavior in the least.</p>
<p>Will it be perfect? I can&#8217;t say, obviously, but the last movie that was in wide distribution about beer was Beerfest. Even if this film is flawed, it has to be better than that. In our lifetime, when has there ever been a documentary film about beer in theaters across the country? Never. So I think it has the potential to be a very good thing for the industry as a whole. Perhaps some of the 96% of the population still not drinking better beer will rethink that decision? I would like to see that happen. We need a tipping point, who knows where it will come from. Just having a film out there will likely mean more attention is paid to beer by the media. How can that be a bad thing?</p>
<p>So yes, I decided not to sit back and figure out how to criticize it, but instead chose to give it a chance. And because there is at least a reasonable possibility that it could do good for the beer community, I threw my very tiny hat in the ring to try to influence its success. If I was wrong, I&#8217;ll be the first to say so. But I&#8217;ll willing to give it the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. For now, I&#8217;m trusting that the message the film is trying to send will be delivered.</p>
<p>Oh, and as I understand it, Ben Stein has no connection to the industry. He was simply the most recognizable name available.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Ager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Ager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Beer Pioneers film looks exactly like what I&#039;ve been thinking needs to be done for 6-7 years now (of course, I was thinking of it in book form, but this is probably better!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Beer Pioneers film looks exactly like what I&#8217;ve been thinking needs to be done for 6-7 years now (of course, I was thinking of it in book form, but this is probably better!).</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.beerscribe.com/2009/03/16/rethinking-the-blog-love-fest-over-beer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Maureen and Stan-

Retweet/tweek/something away.  I definitely wish the director the best and would like to see more films on the subject of craft beer.  I think 100,000 ticket sales as Jay hopes for would be quite an achievement, albeit one I think would be difficult to achieve.  At $15 a ticket, I wonder where the break even point for single day theater sales would be.  I imagine DVD sales will be brisk.  The self-distribution/single day sales angle might be the most interesting part of this all actually, it&#039;s really quite fascinating to see how new media advances.  

And Stan&#039;s right, I&#039;m definitely looking forward to the Beer Pioneers release...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maureen and Stan-</p>
<p>Retweet/tweek/something away.  I definitely wish the director the best and would like to see more films on the subject of craft beer.  I think 100,000 ticket sales as Jay hopes for would be quite an achievement, albeit one I think would be difficult to achieve.  At $15 a ticket, I wonder where the break even point for single day theater sales would be.  I imagine DVD sales will be brisk.  The self-distribution/single day sales angle might be the most interesting part of this all actually, it&#8217;s really quite fascinating to see how new media advances.  </p>
<p>And Stan&#8217;s right, I&#8217;m definitely looking forward to the Beer Pioneers release&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Hieronymus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan Hieronymus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy -

I expect the lovefest has just begun. There will be a lot more lovin&#039; after April 16.

I&#039;m curious to see it, but won&#039;t stress if it isn&#039;t available near whatever campground we are in April 16.

The production budget and the promotion budget both look pretty big to me, which might give fans of the &quot;little guy&quot; at least some reason to pause.

The documentary project people should be anticipating is Jay Shevek&#039;s &quot;Beer Pioneers.&quot; That&#039;s a small budget labor of love with interviews going back into the early 1990s.

http://www.beerguppy.com/productions.html

(No connection to the project at all - just looking forward to seeing it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy -</p>
<p>I expect the lovefest has just begun. There will be a lot more lovin&#8217; after April 16.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious to see it, but won&#8217;t stress if it isn&#8217;t available near whatever campground we are in April 16.</p>
<p>The production budget and the promotion budget both look pretty big to me, which might give fans of the &#8220;little guy&#8221; at least some reason to pause.</p>
<p>The documentary project people should be anticipating is Jay Shevek&#8217;s &#8220;Beer Pioneers.&#8221; That&#8217;s a small budget labor of love with interviews going back into the early 1990s.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.beerguppy.com/productions.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.beerguppy.com/productions.html</a></p>
<p>(No connection to the project at all &#8211; just looking forward to seeing it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Ogle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maureen Ogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, I&#039;ve not seen the film, so I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s &quot;good&quot; or not. But I think part of what feels like relentless &quot;buzzing&quot; is simply an effort to help Anat promote the film. She paid for it out of her own pocket and it would be great if she earned some kind of return on her effort.

And in this media-saturated era, it&#039;s very very hard to promote ANYTHING, let alone an independent film.

Your analysis is, however, likely spot on (again, I&#039;ve not seen the film). So -- hope you don&#039;t mind if I re-tweet your post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, I&#8217;ve not seen the film, so I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s &#8220;good&#8221; or not. But I think part of what feels like relentless &#8220;buzzing&#8221; is simply an effort to help Anat promote the film. She paid for it out of her own pocket and it would be great if she earned some kind of return on her effort.</p>
<p>And in this media-saturated era, it&#8217;s very very hard to promote ANYTHING, let alone an independent film.</p>
<p>Your analysis is, however, likely spot on (again, I&#8217;ve not seen the film). So &#8212; hope you don&#8217;t mind if I re-tweet your post!</p>
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