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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.beerscribe.com/2009/04/16/a-brief-beer-wars-post-gaming-and-my-final-words-on-the-subject/comment-page-1/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just as an aside for those reading this thread, I heartily recommend checking out the documentary/buddy travelogue &quot;American Beer,&quot; by Paul Kermizian.  Released a few years ago, it&#039;s a fun film about the passion of craft brewers.

http://www.beerscribe.com/americanbeer.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just as an aside for those reading this thread, I heartily recommend checking out the documentary/buddy travelogue &#8220;American Beer,&#8221; by Paul Kermizian.  Released a few years ago, it&#8217;s a fun film about the passion of craft brewers.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Discount-

I&#039;m not sure you have the correct definition (or spelling) of hypocritical and you&#039;ve taken my parentheses comments out of context.  My point, as made clear in the review, was that it was heart-wrenching to watch Kallman&#039;s struggles.  The note about her children was not to characterize her actions in any negative way, such as &quot;that a woman has no business&quot; doing such a thing.  On the contrary, my point was that if you&#039;re the president of NCBC and five or six years into the business, especially with her background, and you&#039;re still making bar calls at 11 p.m. at night, something is clearly wrong.  I can understand hand-selling at night in the early days, but this was five to six years later.  That&#039;s a very bad sign so I think you took my comments the wrong way.  I would say the same thing of Jim Koch or Rich Doyle if they were packing a cooler at 10 p.m. on a Wednesday.

If you&#039;re a loyal reader then you&#039;ll know I&#039;ve been writing about Rhonda Kallman for nearly a decade, including publishing the first long-form interview (in Mass Beverage Business, the journal you speak of) with her after she announced the formation of her company.  What you see as disrespectful, I offer as an honest assessment of the successes and failures of her business.  I&#039;ve met Rhonda, spoken with her several times, and she&#039;s a nice lady trying very hard.  That doesn&#039;t add or detract from her present business situation.  

And I&#039;m not annoyed with the film, just disappointed that it missed an opportunity to tell a much fuller story.

Best,

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Discount-</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure you have the correct definition (or spelling) of hypocritical and you&#8217;ve taken my parentheses comments out of context.  My point, as made clear in the review, was that it was heart-wrenching to watch Kallman&#8217;s struggles.  The note about her children was not to characterize her actions in any negative way, such as &#8220;that a woman has no business&#8221; doing such a thing.  On the contrary, my point was that if you&#8217;re the president of NCBC and five or six years into the business, especially with her background, and you&#8217;re still making bar calls at 11 p.m. at night, something is clearly wrong.  I can understand hand-selling at night in the early days, but this was five to six years later.  That&#8217;s a very bad sign so I think you took my comments the wrong way.  I would say the same thing of Jim Koch or Rich Doyle if they were packing a cooler at 10 p.m. on a Wednesday.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a loyal reader then you&#8217;ll know I&#8217;ve been writing about Rhonda Kallman for nearly a decade, including publishing the first long-form interview (in Mass Beverage Business, the journal you speak of) with her after she announced the formation of her company.  What you see as disrespectful, I offer as an honest assessment of the successes and failures of her business.  I&#8217;ve met Rhonda, spoken with her several times, and she&#8217;s a nice lady trying very hard.  That doesn&#8217;t add or detract from her present business situation.  </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not annoyed with the film, just disappointed that it missed an opportunity to tell a much fuller story.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: discountliquors</title>
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		<dc:creator>discountliquors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have enjoyed reading your columns over the years. I read them mainly in the book we subscribe to for our store here in western MA. I went to the movie last night mainly because I like to provide good customer service and I think my customers would have expected me to go see it since it is my industry. In all honesty, I didn;t want to go but I have to say now that I&#039;m glad I did. I went by myself. I learned so much about the business that as a retailer I was aware of but didn&#039;t really know or understand. It made it easy for me to understand. Except for the guy Stein, I was so moved by the movie and by the guy Sam and Moonshot lady Rhonda that I wanted to see if other industry people felt the same way...most of the stuff I&#039;ve read has been pretty positive. Your blog was the most negative which is why I&#039;m responding...for some reason you seem to have a grudge against the Moonshot Lady that comes across as hippocritical. Why would you put in parentheses (leaving the kids home no less) because she is out selling her product. Mr. Koch as well as the Harpoon owner have been in our store selling their product, would you say that (leaving the kids...) about them?  we&#039;ve had big wigs at big companies selling product in our stores and i know they were out the night before selling their product at bars. that;s what they do. I;m sure Sam Cal has done plenty of it,..The more I read of your column the more cynical i found it. It was like you are annoyed with Ms. Baron for making this film before you did. I just thought you were uncharacteristically disrepectful of the people, especially the Moonshot lady, in our industry reviewing this movie...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have enjoyed reading your columns over the years. I read them mainly in the book we subscribe to for our store here in western MA. I went to the movie last night mainly because I like to provide good customer service and I think my customers would have expected me to go see it since it is my industry. In all honesty, I didn;t want to go but I have to say now that I&#8217;m glad I did. I went by myself. I learned so much about the business that as a retailer I was aware of but didn&#8217;t really know or understand. It made it easy for me to understand. Except for the guy Stein, I was so moved by the movie and by the guy Sam and Moonshot lady Rhonda that I wanted to see if other industry people felt the same way&#8230;most of the stuff I&#8217;ve read has been pretty positive. Your blog was the most negative which is why I&#8217;m responding&#8230;for some reason you seem to have a grudge against the Moonshot Lady that comes across as hippocritical. Why would you put in parentheses (leaving the kids home no less) because she is out selling her product. Mr. Koch as well as the Harpoon owner have been in our store selling their product, would you say that (leaving the kids&#8230;) about them?  we&#8217;ve had big wigs at big companies selling product in our stores and i know they were out the night before selling their product at bars. that;s what they do. I;m sure Sam Cal has done plenty of it,..The more I read of your column the more cynical i found it. It was like you are annoyed with Ms. Baron for making this film before you did. I just thought you were uncharacteristically disrepectful of the people, especially the Moonshot lady, in our industry reviewing this movie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another odd thing that struck me this morning is that by the time Baron started filming, in late 2005, Kallman&#039;s story was essentially already written, having failed to get any real foothold since releasing her Edison Light beer four years earlier, on the day before 9/11.  By this point, the filmmaker had already missed the first 3/4&#039;s of the story and arrived only to see the finale, where Kallman and NCBC had no money and were desperate.  The film failed to provide that contextual point. That Kallman was herself still trying to hand-sell the beer to bars in the Boston area (leaving her kids late at night nonetheless) four to five years after founding the company nearby was an important point to establish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another odd thing that struck me this morning is that by the time Baron started filming, in late 2005, Kallman&#8217;s story was essentially already written, having failed to get any real foothold since releasing her Edison Light beer four years earlier, on the day before 9/11.  By this point, the filmmaker had already missed the first 3/4&#8242;s of the story and arrived only to see the finale, where Kallman and NCBC had no money and were desperate.  The film failed to provide that contextual point. That Kallman was herself still trying to hand-sell the beer to bars in the Boston area (leaving her kids late at night nonetheless) four to five years after founding the company nearby was an important point to establish.</p>
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		<title>By: beerinator</title>
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		<dc:creator>beerinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you summed up my feelings very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you summed up my feelings very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad - BeerInBaltimore.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad - BeerInBaltimore.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Took most of the words out of my mouth.  Thanks for the impressions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Took most of the words out of my mouth.  Thanks for the impressions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, my friend.  The film was an enjoyable enough documentary, but could have been much more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, my friend.  The film was an enjoyable enough documentary, but could have been much more.</p>
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